By Lisa Wells, RN
Below are some of the questions related to human growth hormone that were posted in our forums, along with responses from myself and other forum members.
Isn't HGH Illegal?
Question: From what I have read on other sites, such as Wikipedia, the use of HGH without a prescription is illegal. Can someone shed light on this for me?
Answer: Only the HGH injections require a prescription. For more information about the different types of HGH products available please click that link in our left menu.
Need to Know Everything About HGH
Question: My GYM coach is using HGH shots, the ones that look like pens. To me its affordable, it's around $1000 for a 2 months supply. I don't know which brand he is using yet but he says its a good tested brand that is Canadian. The results he is getting along with some other gym friends are unreal!!!
Anyway, for the questions:
-what brands are among the best? Which should I avoid using?
-what doses? I'm planning to use 4 IU for 2-3 months on a 4 days a week basis, day on and day off. the pen like product can make my life easier and safer I guess.
-what are the possible side effects? I heard that if you have cancer that you don't know about, HGH will act as a surprise party and kill you faster. Is this true?
-Are there any medical tests I need to take to make sure I avoid any side effects? Or maybe to know that I can't use HGH at all. I need to know what kind of Dr I need to consult.
-HGH with no exercise is just a waste of money….is this true? Or does HGH makes your life easier with results and little efforts?
-What's my goal? To be fit, healthy, lose fat and look younger.
-HGH gives you stronger bones, hair, better skin, muscles makes you look younger and burns fat….is this all true?
Please share any experience and/or comments. I will discuses any ordering decision once I know more.
Forum member responds: I am also new to HGH, first and foremost, go see an endocrinologist. He will be your best friend thru this. I am 40 with 0.0 HGH levels 240 lbs standing at 5'8'' with a BMI of >36. It's taken me months to get to the point where just Saturday I got my first shipment, but they never sent me the pen device, ooh the torture.... so I get my pen tomorrow. I am still afraid of taking this stuff due to many issues that can arise. I am from the school of "Better be Safe than Sorry" as some of the side effects you can not undo.. That being said. TAKE IT SLOW!!! Now to answer some of your questions:
-what brands are among the best? Which should I avoid using? I am using Omnitrope, there are Norditropin, Saizen, Humatrope, Omnitrope, and Genotropin are all the Brand name and the only ones I would ever use.. All are pharmaceutical Grade.
-what doses? I'm planning to use 4 IU for 2-3 months on a 4 days a week basis, day on and day off. the pen like product can make my life easier and safer i guess. I am on a daily dose of .4 mg, but starting at .2 mg week one, .3 mg week two then if I feel good I will be on .4 mg for a month then do blood work, go see the doctor to go over the results and increase from that point if necessary. Like I said take it slow you only have one life, treat it with care.
-what are the possible side effects? I read and heard that in case you have cancer that you don't know about, HGH will act as a surprise party and kill you faster. Is this true? Here...
Possible Side Effects of HGH Injections:
Risk Factors of HGH Injections:
-Are there any medical tests I need to go through to make sure I avoid any side effects? Or maybe to know that I can't use HGH at all. I need to know what kind of Dr I need to consult. Side effects are based on trial and error, each person reacts differently so read what I copied over so you know what you have to look forward, again this may or may not be the case for you, but the possibilities are there.
-HGH will no exercise is just a waste of money….is this true? Or does HGH makes your life easier with results and little efforts? LOL Sorry but it is a waste of money if you are not willing to put time and effort into your quality of life.
-What's my goal? To be fit, healthy, lose fat and look younger.
Positive effects of growth hormone:
-HGH gives you stronger bones, hair, better skin, muscles makes you look younger and burns fat….is this all true? Same as the side effects the gains differ from person to person, each person reacts to medication differently. So that being said, I wish you luck and a safe journey in achieving your goals. Good luck and be safe... Do your homework....
Follow-up question: Thank you very much for your information. I really appreciate your efforts. I'm thinking to start GH because I'm 35 years old now and I started 2 years ago to take care about my health and figure. I started Muay Thai and MMA and I'm loving it.
You know in my age things aren't as it use to be when it comes to losing fat, shape and performance. So I though of trying GH with small doses to boost up my work and make me younger.
But! I need to start this process with supervision to make sure I don't start a problem that I can avoid. That's why I needed information and advise from experienced people. I will ask about the brand my coach have....all I know that its Canadian made. He is 42 and he looks younger than me hehe.
I hope I can find a good endocrinologist in my country. I searched and it appears they are the same people who treat Diabetes?!
One more thing I need to know please, growth of existing cancer?!! How do I know I have cancer or not?!! I went to a lab that day and they told me there are so many tests for Cancer and I need to know which I need to do. Thanks again for your help.
Forum member follow-up response: First and foremost, I am in not an expert, nor an experienced user. I am new to HGH treatment, I just do my homework prior to what the doctor or anyone else says.
I received all my HGH Omnitrope, needles, alcohol swabs, etc... etc... I am still afraid and have not started taking it yet, its been about 1 week, I want to make sure I really want to do this. I know I have been diagnosed with a deficiency but still, I am afraid of serious side effects that may occur.
Take it slow, make sure this is what you want to do... if your body can produce it on its own then you may not need the needle injection of HGH, there are several pills that spike your own HGH levels, I was tested and failed. So my system is messed up, I need injections, maybe for the rest of my life.
By the way what country are you from? I am from the US.
Here are a few of the test...
Complete blood count (CBC). This common blood test measures the amount of various types of blood cells in a sample of your blood. Blood cancers may be detected using this test if too many or too few of a type of blood cell or abnormal cells are found. A bone marrow biopsy may help confirm a diagnosis of a blood cancer.
Blood protein testing. A test to examine various proteins in your blood (electrophoresis) can aid in detecting certain abnormal immune system proteins (immunoglobulins) that are sometimes elevated in people with multiple myeloma. Other tests, such as a bone marrow biopsy, are used to confirm a suspected diagnosis.
Tumor marker tests. Tumor markers are chemicals made by tumor cells that can be detected in your blood. But tumor markers are also produced by some normal cells in your body, and levels may be significantly elevated in noncancerous conditions. This limits the potential for tumor marker tests to help in diagnosing cancer.
The best way to use tumor markers in diagnosing cancer hasn't been determined. And the use of some tumor marker tests is controversial.
Examples of tumor markers include prostate-specific antigen (PSA) for prostate cancer, cancer antigen 125 (CA 125) for ovarian cancer, calcitonin for medullary thyroid cancer, alpha-fetoprotein (AFP) for liver cancer and human chorionic gonadotropin (HCG) for germ cell tumors, such as testicular cancer and ovarian cancer.
Circulating tumor cell tests. Experimental blood tests are being developed to find cells that have broken away from an original cancer site and are floating in the bloodstream. More research is needed to understand how these tests can help doctors diagnose advanced cancers.
Follow-up question: I thank you again for your kind information. But isn't this board suppose to help with the process?
Forum member follow-up response: No one will break it down for you step by step. There is no one way to do things. What may work for me may not work for you. You have to go to an endocrinologist a specialist and tell him what you are trying to achieve and to figure out what's wrong with you. I have supplied you with information that I found on my journey. This is just information to help steer you in the right direction not as a diagnosis. There is no magic solution. Its all trial and error. There is less chance of error when you research based on the results of your symptoms and test results.
Follow-up question: I don't need a step by step guide on what to do. even so, I won't follow it. All I need to know is the experience of others.
What can they advise me with. To me, it is a source of information not a guide. I don't know if I have a DR that can help me through the process or not, I've been asking and no one ever gave me a direct reply. Maybe we don't have the kind of DRs here in my country.
People tend to use 4 IU without any consultation around here and many if not all, are having great results, except me, I ask and I try to gather info to form a decision. I thank you again for your help, I learned from you.
Answer: Hi. I appreciate all the good information this member gave you. I understand you wish to have feedback from someone who has taken the injections for reasons similar to yours. I have only taken homeopathic HGH over the past 15 years because I have never needed the injections so I cannot speak from personal experience. However, as a registered nurse I do have a good bit of knowledge about HGH therapy, all types, and I have spoken with many patients over the years who have taken the injections. I have also administered the injections to patients and I have taught patients about the injections and how to administer them.
When talking with clients who have taken the injections the side effects they usually experience first is edema (swelling) and joint pains. Such side effects are a sign that the dose is too high.
Many doctors begin with doses lower than 2 IU per day to prevent side effects and they slowly titrate the patient's dose up as is needed based on their blood IGF-1 level. When therapy is carried out properly side effects should be minimal.
Concerning the risk of cancer, here is an article I wrote: HGH and Cancer
I must tell you that my opinion, as well as the opinion of many other anti-aging medical professionals, is that the injections should only be used as the last resort. The reason is because the injections are a full man-made hormone replacement therapy (HRT). You've probably heard of other HRT's such as estrogen and progesterone replacement in women, and testosterone replacement in men. Once someone is prescribed HRT they may need to stay on it for the rest of their life because the patient's own body is no longer able to make enough of its own hormone. Of course no man-made hormone is ever as good as the real hormone made by the body.
The problem with taking HGH injections when you don't need them is that it will decrease and can even stop your body's own production of HGH. The pituitary gland will not release any growth hormone when you are getting all you need from an outside source. People in their 30's and 40's should not be on the injections unless they have a medical condition and can't make enough of their own. The decrease of HGH that comes with aging can be restored by non-injection means in many in not most cases.
Bodybuilders can get good muscle gains fast by taking the injections but once they stop taking them they may lose those gains and even end up in worse shape than they were before they started. This is called a "rebound effect".
The injections should be cycled to try to decrease this effect but it still happens. Hopefully after awhile the pituitary gland will again begin to release some HGH but there is no guarantee. You may have heard of similar things happening to those who took large doses of steroids over a long period of time. The connection in the brain that stimulates the release of testosterone was permanently lost and so they needed testosterone replacement from then on. This can happen with long-term use of HGH injections also.
Besides the body becoming dependent on the injections, one of the reasons why side effects occur is the fact that it is not natural for the body to have to deal with and break down it's entire day's worth of growth hormone all in one dose, or divided into only 2 doses per day. The pituitary gland naturally releases small spurts of HGH at various times all throughout the day as needed and so this can cause problems.
I want to add that even though taking the injections may bring about muscle gains faster, the injections are not the only effective way to optimize growth hormone in the body.
Over the past 15 years I have spoken with numerous bodybuilders and athletes, including professional athletes who have received great benefits by taking the homeopathic form of HGH (somatropin). These professionals cannot take the injections due to the drug testing but they can take HGH and also IGF-1 itself in homeopathic form. They receive the muscle, strength, and stamina benefits as well as the enhanced healing that some of the NFL players need, they don't have to worry about risks or side effects, and they don't get into trouble due to drug testing.
I know there are those who think that only the injections are effective but that is simply not true, unless your pituitary gland can no longer make its own growth hormone. If you have a normal pituitary gland and any decrease is due to the aging process then most people do not need the injections. We have patients in their 70's and 80's who are keeping their IGF-1 at a more youthful level without taking the injections.
Taking the HGH injections as opposed to taking a non-injection product is similar to the therapy of diabetics. Some diabetics cannot make their own insulin and so it all must come from an outside source, while others can take an oral product that helps them to make more of their own insulin. To me it would seem strange if a doctor told a diabetic patient that he would give him a pill to increase his own production of insulin but the patient insisted on taking insulin injections instead.
Well, what I have written here is probably not what you were looking for but I wanted to give you with my opinion since you came to my forum for help, and as a nurse I want to provide information that may be helpful. If you decide that you would like more information about our safer, yet effective products please check our top and left menus. I do wish you the best of luck.
Is HGH For Me?
Question: I'm a pretty in shape 20 y/o male. I work out 4-5 times a week but I cant get the size and tone I'm looking for. I don't want a HGH replacement but an HGH stimulant to increase my HGH levels. Am I looking in the right place or should I look else where?
Answer: It is smart to not want to take a hormone replacement therapy such as the injections because you are too young to make yourself dependent upon hormone replacement.
Our homeopathic HGH Plus IGF-1 & IGF-2 product is working well for clients wanting to increase muscle and it won't shut down your own production of growth hormone. However, since you are so young I recommend you not take any type of HGH therapy without your doctor's approval.
What About Taking Sermorelin?
Question: Are you familiar with Sermorelin? It is growth hormone releasing hormone in a 21 amino acid chain that does cause the pituitary to release growth hormone with the same pathways and "burst rhythms" that the body does naturally. Until recently, it has only been in injectable form. Now it is available in micro-encapsulated chaperone molecules in sublingual form.
I was wondering if this could be added to your already great hgh products?
Answer: Yes, I am familiar with Sermorelin. For those taking our HGH or HGH Plus IGF-1 & IGF-2 product it should not be needed.
We have many clients who monitor their blood IGF-1 levels so they see the proof of how well our products are working.
Please keep in mind that when you take Sermorelin you are taking a hormone replacement therapy of GHRH, which is normally released by the hypothalamus. If you take GHRH for very long the hypothalamus may become lazy about releasing it again just like the pituitary gland can become lazy about releasing growth hormone again if you take the HGH injections for very long. Generally, all HRT's are suppose to be prescribed once the specific gland can no longer make enough of that hormone and it is usually meant to be taken for life.
Follow-up question: Thank you, Lisa. I am glad to know that you are well educated and keep up with the latest info on hgh secretagogues. I know your products work well, I just wish I could afford the blood work to affirm my own IGF1 levels.
Which HGH Product Should I Take For Weight Loss?
Question: My objective is for weight loss and all the other benefits, what do u suggest I use? Can you explain homeopathic? How often and how fast can you see results?
Answer: The product I recommend for weight loss is HGH Plus IGF-1 & IGF-2. I believe it is the best on the market because it contains the HGH formula that was shown to be most effective in independent randomized double-blind placebo-controlled IGF-1 clinical studies that measured the increase of HGH in patients over a 5 month period. The 5 months is important because it showed that the product can still be effective longer than the 3 months of some amino acid products.
The HGH products that are in pill form, any that you swallow and digest are made up of only amino acids, vitamins, and herbs, and contain no form of human growth hormone. You won't find any clinical studies done on these types of products over a period of time because it is known that the pituitary gland may become resistant to high doses of amino acids. This does not happen with homeopathic HGH.
Homeopathy is a form of medicine that is over 200 years old. It works naturally with the body and so is safe. Here are links to pages that explain about homeopathy and also about HGH in homeopathic form:
At the page below you will find information about the benefits you might expect to see broken down in a month to month basis:
Sorry about all the links, but it would be too much information to put in a post.
Follow-up question: Thank you for the info, I will read them for sure. I have read a lot that the only real form is to inject by needle. Your thoughts on that? What do professional athletes take?
Follow-up answer: That is not true. The only way to receive a full hormone replacement dose of human growth hormone is by injection but the injections are not the only way to increase HGH in the body.
If you had a damaged pituitary gland that could no longer make its own HGH then you would need to take the injections. However, if your pituitary gland is still healthy you shouldn't need injections at your age of 40.
Bodybuilders who take the injections can enjoy the benefits for as long as they continue to take them, but once they stop they will lose their gains, and depending on how long they took the injections they may never be able to get their HGH level normal again without the injections.
Numerous bodybuilders and athletes, including many professionals, take the HGH Plus IGF-1 & IGF-2 product. They get good results that they won't lose as soon as they stop taking the product, and they don't get in trouble with the NFL, NCAA, etc., for taking performance enhancing drugs.
Need Advice On My Blood Work Results
Question: I think I have done a good amount of research on this subject but would really like to hear some solid advise from people who have .. been there and done it.
Quick background: for 48 years I did no exercise at all ever. One year ago I weighed 220 pounds so I decided it was time to look after my self.
I started running and Atkins diet 6 months lost 25 pounds then started P90X, it took me 120 days but I completed it, with great results. I also ran 6 kilometers 5 times a week. I now weigh 185 and feel great!
It's all good apart from me still having fat on my stomach. OK WHAT NEXT ....I'm not really interested in getting big but I do want to stay fit so I'm going to start cross training next week as I like cardio.
I need advise guys ... I've been looking at HGH and test benefits for a guy my age .. No problem with buying this as I live in the Dominican republic and we can buy over the counter. Also no problem getting blood work done as doctors will check anything if you pay.
I'm really looking for advise on what levels I should use to get ripped and get all the good side effects (and minimize any bad ones) I've read about, increased energy levels etc.
My blood work:
Testosterone = 523
IGF-1 = 219
HGH = 0.27
DHEA = 185
Any advise on the above figures at all will be greatly appreciated, amounts I should use, cycles etc.
Answer: I believe we have already spoken on the phone but I will reply below, just in case.
The first thing I notice is your total testosterone. Usually anti-aging doctors prefer it to be at the higher end of normal, at least 800 in your case.
Your DHEA is not optimum since again it is better to be at the high end of normal. For someone your age the normal DHEA range is 95-530 ug/dL.
Regarding your HGH level, unless you had a stimulation test done your result is not accurate. You cannot get an accurate HGH level by doing a random blood draw. The pituitary gland must be stimulated to release growth hormone and that is risky. That is why growth hormone stimulation tests are not usually done on adults. They do an IGF-1 level instead.
Your IGF-1 level is actually pretty good. It could be raised up to around 250 but 219 is okay. Doctor's usually want the IGF-1 level to be no less than 200 for someone your age.
Of course I am only speaking in general terms as every doctor will have their own preferences. I recommend you go over your labs with your doctor and follow his/her advice.
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